We’re back with Pops and my cousin Dana to continue our lively discussion about black male privilege. In part 1 of this conversation, I define black male privilege to get us on the same page, and Pops and Dana express their feelings on if they agree that black men are more privileged than black women.
We got into issues about men needing to feel in charge and assert power, traditional lines of gendered responsibility possibly being erased, the possibility of recent history slowly being written to benefit black women more, and the lack of black women highlighted in African-American history in school. Then, I started sharing privileges from a checklist I discovered written by Jewel Woods about the ways in which black men have an advantage over black women.
This week, we debate more black male privileges from the checklist. We also talk about how important it is to recognize those privileges, starting with the question we left off with in episode 5, “Who has more marriage or cohabitation options after a divorce: men or women?” Let’s get into it!
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In this episode:
[02:30] – According to the people Pops and Dana know, are men or women more likely to end up in a relationship after divorce?
[04:51] – Pops thinks it’s easier for men to get into a relationship more quickly after divorce but feels the quality of said relationship would differ.
[06:49] – True or false: as a male coach, can you motivate, punish, or embarrass a player by saying that the player plays like a girl?
[08:45] – Pops doesn’t think others see the “play like a girl” insult as a big deal. But if a girl heard that, how would she feel?
[10:21] – Brittney still sees this kind of insult in use and recalls a recent example.
[12:01] – Joking about women can reflect how you treat women in real life. Brittney emphasizes that word choice matters.
[14:07] – For equitable dynamics between men and women, people need open dialogue and awareness, but only women are really driving the conversation.
[16:06] – Brittney points out that it’s a privilege in and of itself for Pops to not have to carry the conversation forward.
[17:31] – True or false: men can use language such as “hittin-it” to convey images of sexual acts based on dominance and performance.
[18:43] – Do women have their own locker room talk regarding sex? If so, is it similar to men’s?
[21:04] – Brittney highlights that Pops and Dana are conflating sports locker room talk with rap.
[23:40] – How are Pops and Dana supporting the movement for more equality between the sexes?
[25:42] – Pops believes that by raising strong daughters that he and Dana are also doing their part for society.
[28:30] – Brittney expresses hope that Pops and Dana won’t be afraid to call out their friend’s or other men’s behavior when they see it.
[29:10] – Brittney ends the episode with a few final thoughts.
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The Black Male Privileges Checklist by Jewel Woods
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